Post by cinciredsfan on Jul 10, 2009 9:51:50 GMT -5
"Lets examine the general course of conversation this game has taken.
We started talking in general terms about weather. We then slid into a chat about what type of mafia one would send into the election. The answer was simple: the godfather. Elections went on, some odd voting happened, then we nearly completely dropped the topic.
Why is this important? Because BC is acting incoherently in his role. BC will criticize ydg for 'flip flopping', but flip flops himself, posting:
On July 05 2009 14:48 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Ydg
Ecomania
Elemenope
Kuja
Scamp
If elected, i will be random # generating from this list.
Ydg as he tends to go inactive for alot of a game in most games (sorry bud but inactives kill the game)
Elemenope seems shifty to me based on a question he asked previously in the thread,
ecomania, kuja and scamp due to general inactivity
then essentially going "oh wait nevermind, i'm going to kill a power player instead" 40 minutes later. Regardless of the wisdom of the plan, BC can't be pointing out other people for changing their minds when he's been the biggest flip flopper in the game when it comes down to concrete life or death decisions. More importantly, check that list: Who's number 1 there? The person BC is trying to get the town to bandwagon right now. Okay, fair enough, he's had a grudge and has been searching for shit to pin on ydg despite not having ANY clue information to back his claims up.
There's obviously more poor argumention from him, quite a bit of it stemming from kill MBH plan and a bit more coming from previous conversations. That alone isn't enough to pin someone as being mafia. Tricode last game was throwing up complete garbage posts, but he was just an idiot townie. What makes BC special is WHO his friends are and WHEN they support him.
Next: Lets take a gander at the vote lists:
BloodyC0bbler [13]
TruthBringer
Pyrrhuloxia
HeavOnEarth
ydg
LucasWoJ
Shikyo
BWdero
Falcynn
Scaramanga
Faronel
StorZerg
Foolishness
Vivi57
L [10]
So no fek
iNfuNdiBuLuM
Chezinu
ecomania
motbob
GoodWill
iLoveKT
Malongo
chaoser
JeeJee
Abstain [9]
redtooth
BloodyC0bbler
Fishball
Bockit
Lenwe
vx70GTOJudgexv
araav
Elemenope
MrBabyHands
The bolded member of the list are special because they correspond to typical voting periods for mafia members on a mafia candidate. Mafia will seed a list to get a bandwagon running, then let it grow a bit on its own, sprinkling a few extra votes in the middle, but holding most of their members back if they need to make a last minute push. The early voters? TruthBringer and Pyrr. TruthBringer has been silent and is by far our best clue link, and Pyrr defends BC fanatically, throwing a few red herrings at other players now and then. The two bolded votes further down correspond to the 11th and 12th votes for BC respectively, the votes needed to overcome the fact that I hadn't yet voted and assure the win for BC. Foolishness is posting useless comments and poor analysis all over the thread, adding to the 'chaos' that BC was talking about when referring to flip flopping. StorZerg Is nearly 100% silent.
The italicized members are those that have been put under suspicion in the past few pages. That said, there are likely only 3-5 mafia on that list, with the other 3-5 being on me or abstaining. Since I'm in the unique position of knowing that mafia would only vote for me to camouflage themselves (unless they wanted to warp my mind and control my precious fog votes), This tells me that BC is far too likely to be mafia to be followed in bandwagons. Lets examine those people who have been following:
Araav - 3
Storzerg
Pyrrhuloxia
So no fek
YDG - 5
Foolishness
vx70GTOJudgexv
BloodyC0bbler
iLoveKTF
Falcynn
Out of the 5 most likely mafia members, 3 of them are seeding bandwagon lists to deflect the pressure put on a fourth member: TruthBringer.
Wake the fuck up. Don't take my word for granted either. Think this shit through yourself. Town is getting fucking RAPED right now. We aren't active and the mafia are actively putting up walls of shit posts to throw you off and make you too lazy to go back and find quality information."
There's a post by L as well that people seem to have forgotten
We started talking in general terms about weather. We then slid into a chat about what type of mafia one would send into the election. The answer was simple: the godfather. Elections went on, some odd voting happened, then we nearly completely dropped the topic.
Why is this important? Because BC is acting incoherently in his role. BC will criticize ydg for 'flip flopping', but flip flops himself, posting:
On July 05 2009 14:48 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Ydg
Ecomania
Elemenope
Kuja
Scamp
If elected, i will be random # generating from this list.
Ydg as he tends to go inactive for alot of a game in most games (sorry bud but inactives kill the game)
Elemenope seems shifty to me based on a question he asked previously in the thread,
ecomania, kuja and scamp due to general inactivity
then essentially going "oh wait nevermind, i'm going to kill a power player instead" 40 minutes later. Regardless of the wisdom of the plan, BC can't be pointing out other people for changing their minds when he's been the biggest flip flopper in the game when it comes down to concrete life or death decisions. More importantly, check that list: Who's number 1 there? The person BC is trying to get the town to bandwagon right now. Okay, fair enough, he's had a grudge and has been searching for shit to pin on ydg despite not having ANY clue information to back his claims up.
There's obviously more poor argumention from him, quite a bit of it stemming from kill MBH plan and a bit more coming from previous conversations. That alone isn't enough to pin someone as being mafia. Tricode last game was throwing up complete garbage posts, but he was just an idiot townie. What makes BC special is WHO his friends are and WHEN they support him.
Next: Lets take a gander at the vote lists:
BloodyC0bbler [13]
TruthBringer
Pyrrhuloxia
HeavOnEarth
ydg
LucasWoJ
Shikyo
BWdero
Falcynn
Scaramanga
Faronel
StorZerg
Foolishness
Vivi57
L [10]
So no fek
iNfuNdiBuLuM
Chezinu
ecomania
motbob
GoodWill
iLoveKT
Malongo
chaoser
JeeJee
Abstain [9]
redtooth
BloodyC0bbler
Fishball
Bockit
Lenwe
vx70GTOJudgexv
araav
Elemenope
MrBabyHands
The bolded member of the list are special because they correspond to typical voting periods for mafia members on a mafia candidate. Mafia will seed a list to get a bandwagon running, then let it grow a bit on its own, sprinkling a few extra votes in the middle, but holding most of their members back if they need to make a last minute push. The early voters? TruthBringer and Pyrr. TruthBringer has been silent and is by far our best clue link, and Pyrr defends BC fanatically, throwing a few red herrings at other players now and then. The two bolded votes further down correspond to the 11th and 12th votes for BC respectively, the votes needed to overcome the fact that I hadn't yet voted and assure the win for BC. Foolishness is posting useless comments and poor analysis all over the thread, adding to the 'chaos' that BC was talking about when referring to flip flopping. StorZerg Is nearly 100% silent.
The italicized members are those that have been put under suspicion in the past few pages. That said, there are likely only 3-5 mafia on that list, with the other 3-5 being on me or abstaining. Since I'm in the unique position of knowing that mafia would only vote for me to camouflage themselves (unless they wanted to warp my mind and control my precious fog votes), This tells me that BC is far too likely to be mafia to be followed in bandwagons. Lets examine those people who have been following:
Araav - 3
Storzerg
Pyrrhuloxia
So no fek
YDG - 5
Foolishness
vx70GTOJudgexv
BloodyC0bbler
iLoveKTF
Falcynn
Out of the 5 most likely mafia members, 3 of them are seeding bandwagon lists to deflect the pressure put on a fourth member: TruthBringer.
Wake the fuck up. Don't take my word for granted either. Think this shit through yourself. Town is getting fucking RAPED right now. We aren't active and the mafia are actively putting up walls of shit posts to throw you off and make you too lazy to go back and find quality information."
There's a post by L as well that people seem to have forgotten